I'd like to have a panel that is about 43" long and 12" wide fabricated from .062" (about 1.5 mm)6061 T6 aluminum, powder coated with filled engraved labels. Front Panel Designer won't allow anything thinner than 2.5 mm. Is this possible? Do I need to supply the material?
Posted By: arcture on Jan 08, 2014 03:27AM Category: Production
Front Panel Designer limits the size because of the way we hold the panel during the machining process.
This doesn't mean that we can't machine it. It depends on your design. If it is very complex we would need to use additional support in holding the part and would charge a setup fee. However, in most cases a simple modification is possible, free of charge.
All you need to do is to design it in 2.5mm and leave us a note in the box of 'Front Panel Properties' to change the thickness to 1.5mm. We will contact you prior to processing your order if additional charges apply.
Our aluminum alloy is 5005. We can special order 6061 for you if it is crucial for your application.
Posted By: DianeHaensel on Jan 08, 2014 09:15PMReply
I wish to provide a bezel to surround a keypad in order to display user instructions for function keys.
The bezel is 10.7 mm square with a cut out 8.2 mm square leaving a 1.25 mm surround to take about 3 mm square characters.
The smallest engraving tool is around 0.22 mm and this prevents me engraving such small characters.
Two solutions spring to mind being photo anodising or silk screen printing.
I can get these solutions as a post Express Front Panel manufacture however if you can provide such small markings, I would prefer having the total done by yourselves.
This is part of my Unikey product for which your panels have been very successful.
Comment would be most helpful.
Docwat (Edinburgh, Scotland))
Posted By: docwat on Jan 06, 2014 05:09PM Category: Production
Our sister company Schaeffer AG serves the European market and they offer digital printing upon request.
This sounds exactly like what you are looking for. Here is their contact:
Posted By: DianeHaensel on Jan 06, 2014 09:21PMReply
Very many thanks,
Posted By: docwat on Jan 09, 2014 10:46PMReply
I see that FPD allows for a hole with a 3/8" UNEF (3/8-32) thread to be cut into a panel. This is suitable for mounting potentiometers with no protruding threads or nut on the outside of the finished enclosure.
I often use C&K 7000-series miniature toggle switches. One mounting option for these switches has a 1/4-40 UNS thread (1/4", 40 thread per inch). I would like to be able to have a hole with a 1/4-40 UNS thread cut into a panel to allow the switch to be fitted with no external nut.
1/4-40 (and UNS for that matter) is not available as an option on the standard thread pull-down menus in the drill hole properties dialog box. However, I see that I can select "Manual thread parameters" and set diameter to 0.25" and the thread pitch to 0.025".
My question: Can a thread with this size and pitch be cut successfully by the milling process?
Posted By: desiato on Dec 18, 2013 06:45AM Category: Production
I apologize for the late response. You can certainly set the manual parameters to diameter 0.25" and pitch 0.025"
Front Panel Designer alerts you when you go too large with the pitch. It should do the same when you go too small but it doesn't. Thank you, you just helped me discovering a glitch in the software. However, a pitch of 0.025" works fine.
Posted By: DianeHaensel on Dec 23, 2013 10:20PMReply
What is the pull-out resistance of the epoxied studs (specifically a 6/32 machine screw stud)
Posted By: tlj3071 on Nov 08, 2013 06:35PM Category: Production
we tested the vertical pull-out resistance very similar to PEM studs (let me get back to you with the actual numbers.)
The shear strengths is >10MPa. The head of a 6-32 stud/standoff is 7mm, resulting in an area of about 40mm^2. This means about 400N shear strength.
Posted By: DianeHaensel on Nov 11, 2013 09:23PMReply
I've had studs placed on two 14"x8½" panels, and roughly half of the studs came loose for a number of reasons before the the final installation of the panel. Personally I think the epoxy is too hard or brittle. I think there needs to be some refining to the stud fixing process before it's deemed reliable. Also FPE could explain some current limitations of the use of studs, to the end user.
Posted By: KenTech on Jan 08, 2014 12:54PMReply
This is concerning and you shouldn't accept such unsatisfactory service from us.
Our customer service will get in touch with you and resolve this problem. Thank you for your feedback on this. We will certainly look into the epoxy process.
Posted By: DianeHaensel on Jan 08, 2014 09:34PMReply
For years I have used the following:
I had the panel drilled with blind threaded holes (either 6-32 or 8-32). In these holes I inserted 1/2" long setscrews and used Loctite to ensure that they wouldn't come loose.
These front panels were used on standard 19" rack enclosures the setscrews through holes in the front edges of the side panels and held in place with pem nuts.
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Posted By: ciciswift on Nov 05, 2013 08:42AM Category: Production
I am looking for a 1mm thick panel to cover a plastic enclosure. Front designer rejects this. Can you provide 1mm thick panels ?
Is your natural aluminium finish the common etched and anodised finish ?
I am unfamiliar with the laser engraved legends. They may suit my product but is anodised photo marking and option.
Posted By: docwat on Sep 25, 2013 03:05PM Category: Production
Yes we offer 1mm thick anodized aluminum (color natural.) It is not available in Front Panel Designer because of a couple of limitations in size and design of the part. You can always design it in a thicker material and put a request in the file. We will then check and get back to you.
We offer a variety of different anodized aluminum. An overview can be found here.
All our engravings are actually cut. We don't laser engrave. Some examples are here.
And there is of course always the possibility of requesting material and engraving samples from us. Our customer service will be more than happy to send those to you. Just call (206) 768-0602 or email firstname.lastname@example.org and tell us where to ship it to.
Posted By: DianeHaensel on Sep 25, 2013 10:55PMReply
Thanks Diane for your helpful reply.
I will prepare an order as you suggest with the 1mm request.
Posted By: docwat on Sep 26, 2013 08:15AMReply